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THE BACKBENDER’S GAZETTE
Volume LIIII ----- Houston Gem & Mineral Society ----- November 2024
The Stones are Speaking
Report on a new movie about the Gault Archaeology Site
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President's Message
by LT Wilcox
We are all excited for the Annual Show! Looking forward to seeing all our demonstrations and finding those few pieces you can’t find anywhere else. It’s almost like Christmas when this time of year comes around.
We will have a few officer changes at the next general meeting, and before we know it 2025 is sneaking up on us fast.
I want to thank everyone who has put in all their hard work this year to make HGMS what it is! I would consider starting a volunteer of the year award but there’s so many great deeds everyone does, it would be impossible to choose.
Vice-President's Message
by Jeanean Slamen
For the October 22nd General Meeting, Bill Spizirri of the Fort Bend Astronomy Club (FBAC) discussed the difference between meteors, asteroids and meteorites. He described the types of meteorites and their characteristics as well as various impact sites (craters). He brought several different types of meteorites for show and tell and told us about FBAC’s activities locally.
Bill is a retired mainframe software engineer from Chicago who has studied astronomy for 68 years. He has been a member of astronomy clubs for 46 years and served in various offices including president of an astronomy club in Chicago. His favorite astronomy activity is teaching astronomy to children and the general public. He currently lives in Katy to be near his three grandchildren.
Looking forward to the November talk.
The Stones are Speaking
Information and Photographs Courtesy of the Producer and Director, Olive Talley
A new movie on the Gault Archaeological Site, “The Stones Are Speaking,” will enlighten people about prehistoric America. This intriguing site, 40 miles north of Austin on Buttermilk Creek near Salado, is called the Gault site after a previous owner. Archaeologists have recovered an incredible trove of Clovis age and older artifacts, including Clovis points and rare engraved stones that point to human presence in the Americas before the Last Ice Age, 20,000 years ago.

This challenges the long-accepted view that people first arrived in the Americas 13,500 years ago. The movie showed for the first time at the Austin Film Festival on October 26th and 30th, 2024.
Olive Talley, Producer and Director, at center, at the film’s premier at the Austin Film Festival, with Mike and Karen Collins on either side.
Olive Talley first heard about the Gault Site on a trip to Antarctica. Kenneth Garrett, a longtime National Geographic photographer, gave a talk about his work in documenting the migration of peoples to the Western Hemisphere.
“He highlighted the importance of the Gault Site in Central Texas,” Talley told the American-Statesman, “and all of us Texans on the trip were amazed because we’d never heard of it”. She was fascinated and called Austin archaeologist Mike Collins when she returned to Texas.

Mike Collins grew up in West Texas and found artifacts on camping trips as a child. Later, he was influenced by naturalist Glen Evans, known as “Dean of Texas Paleontology” and the “Father of Geoarchaeology.” At the University of Texas and also in Arizona, he studied anthropology and geology, belonged to a group of flint knappers, and studied stone tools with experts from Europe and the Middle East. He later became a research professor at Texas State University at San Marcos.
When he first visited the Gault Site, he saw an area full of dug-up holes left by amateurs looking for artifacts. Unfortunately, such relics do not include the all-important scientific context that would allow them to be accepted by the archaeology community. It was obvious that it was a welcoming site for early Americans – spring-fed Buttermilk Creek flows year-round and flint from the Edwards Plateau is so common there, it was probably a major stone tool manufacturing location.

Collins negotiated a lease with the owners, Howard and Doris Lindsey, and mobilized volunteers from his professional network to search carefully for artifacts such as stone tools – points, adzes, punches, and blades – preserving information about position and dating. They also uncovered incised rock art and a stone floor.
The Lindseys decided to sell the site as a resource for research and education, but it was difficult to find the necessary funding. Eventually Mike and his wife Karen Collins managed to buy the site themselves, and after 16 years of excavating at the Site, they donated the land to the Archaeological Conservancy and founded the Gault School of Archaeological Research.
Since then, new professionals and volunteers have excavated down to bedrock and more discoveries have been found beneath the Clovis level, nine feet below the surface. Sophisticated dating puts the age of the deeper artifacts at possibly 20,000 years ago.
The Site has yielded more Clovis artifacts than any other site in the Americas and will help archaeologists develop a clearer picture of the lives and technologies of the Clovis people and their predecessors. Much can be learned from the traditions of Indigenous peoples and from research at other sites. Eventually we will understand past migration paths, which could include multiple crossings from both the Atlantic and the Pacific.
Olive Talley is currently exploring avenues for wider viewing of the film.
References:
https://thestonesarespeaking.com/
https://liberalarts.tamu.edu/csfa/category/mammoth-trumpet/
https://liberalarts.tamu.edu/csfa/publications-archives/mammoth-trumpet-archives/
https://www.txst.edu/prospectiveflash/research/artifact/artifact-texasmonthly-ad.pdf
https://www.olivetalley.com/about-olive/
Photographs by permission of Olive Talley
A Note about Texas Flint
Flint was important to all tool making, along with the more perishable bone and wood, which was probably shaped with flint. People without access to good flint traveled great distances to acquire it. The flint and chert comes from the Edwards Formation, and when the Edwards Plateau was lifted by the uplift of the Rocky Mountains, it subjected the valleys to erosion, freeing flint nodules, and concentrating the resistant flint in river valleys. Knappers praise the quality of Edwards flint, talking about different Edwards cherts like Georgetown Blue, Root Beer, Buckskin, and striped and spotted Edwards.
Farther away, there is Pedernales Pink in Gillespie County, and Alibates Flint from the Amarillo area. Agates and petrified wood were used by Native Americans and are also used by knappers today.
Some Links:
https://www.projectilepoints.net/Materials/Search/Texas.html
https://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/plateaus/nature/images/rootbeer.html
Section News
Beading – Second Saturday, 12:00 PM This month ONLY WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TIME :
Saturday, November 16th at Noon
From Maggie Manley
Dur to a conflict with the HGMS 71st annual show, we will not be meeting on the 9th this month. I will be at the show all three days from 9 AM to 5 PM. Joann and LT have committed to helping at the table for half a day each. If you want to take a shift please contact me at the e-mail below. With help at the booth I can do demonstrations for the public.
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I have a special holiday project for November / December that is done on a loom. It will take two meetings to complete, so I am proposing to meet on Saturday, November 16th at Noon and then again on December 14th, at our regularly scheduled December meeting. That should give you time to complete the project and time to wear it for holiday festivities. Unless you have looming experience, you must attend the November meeting where we will be setting up the loom and understanding the pattern. In December we will finish the looming, take it off the loom, and add the clasp. If we need more room to accommodate people we will move into the large meeting room. To participate in the holiday loomed bracelet project you must RSVP by November 15th. That gives me time to order kit materials. You need a loom; however, we can probably set you up the project on a deep dish tray, if you wish. I have a few looms that I can lend out; but, I will require a deposit to ensure return. See a picture of the project attached. I have a diagram of the pattern and I will also have a written pattern for those who participate in this project. Cost will be between $10 and $15, depending on final material costs. I just purchased 10 sets of lobster clasps, jump rings, and slide clasps for this project. Still need to purchase thread and seed beads.
Always bring beading mat, scissors, wire, wire cutter, round nose and needle nose pliers, thread, and beading needles if you have them.
NOTICE: Do you have a bracelet or necklace that needs restringing? The Beading Section will carefully restring your piece at an hourly rate of $15.00 + materials. Contact Beading @HGMS.org to make arrangements. All funds will go to the Beading Section.
Gemstones and Faceting – Second Thursday, 6:30 PM
There will be no meeting on November 14th this month; instead, all Section members are encouraged to attend the Annual Show on November 8th, 9th and 10th in place of the monthly meeting.
Lapidary and Silversmithing – Third Monday, 7:00 PM
The next meeting will be on Monday, November 18th starting at 7:00 pm.
- November 18 – This is our final meeting for the year. Stone of the month will be picture jasper. There will be different kinds to choose from. Please bring your Show purchases for Show & Tell and we’ll have some refreshments.
Email Lapidary@hgms.org if you have questions.
Day Light – First Wednesday, 1:00 PM Cancelled!
The Daylight Section meets the first Wednesday of the month from 1 to 3 PM.
The next meeting of the Daylight Section for Wednesday, November 6th at 1 PM is cancelled.
Because Nancy Searle must make a trip to assist her sister, there will be NO MEETING for the Day Light Section on November 6th.
Additionally, she was working with Linda Krzywicki showing her what needed to be done to lead the group if I could not be at the November session. After she left her at the shop, she spoke with other people at the shop and was told that there would be many people in and out of the building on Wednesday getting ready to take materials to the Annual Show. It was suggested that we not have a Day Light Session in November.
Mineral – Third Wednesday, 7:30 PM
As usual, our meeting November 20th after the Annual Show will be a review of specimens seen or acquired at the Annual Show. Steve Blyskal will show his acquisitions, most from swap-dollar acquisitions from dealers. Come see Minerals! Bring yours to show. Refreshments will be served.
The link for the Zoom meeting is:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4517997588?pwd=SnZjckZBTnRMbHRxZitScE9WU3RWUT09
In Rock-tober we had a great Halloween presentation from Deidre Prince and Burton Dworski.
Paleontology – Third Tuesday, 7:30 PM
The next meeting is Tuesday, November 19th at 7:30 pm. Topic to be announced.
Zoom link for the meeting:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86053771923?pwd=ek5lNlk5SGFYNjN6U29ONU4xVElyQT09
or Meeting ID: 860 5377 1923 Passcode: 826994
If you’d like to join the Paleo Section email list, send an email to hgmspaleosection@gmail.com and ask to be added.
Youth, First and Third Saturdays, 10:00am – 12:00pm
Youth section members who will enter the cabochon competition at the show need to turn in their finished stones no later than the November 2nd meeting.
Shop and Building News
Work on the 18-inch saw has been paused because the open space is needed for Load Out.
What is Load Out? The Saturday before the Show (November 2nd), every section is responsible for marking the equipment and other material that they want to go to the Annual Show with colored stickers that indicate where it should be unloaded during Set Up Day (Thursday, November 7th) at the Annual Show held at the Humble Civic Center. Those who can carry their stuff downstairs are encouraged to do so. If not, on Load Up Day (Wednesday, November 6th) our movers will move it downstairs and pack it in the truck before driving it to the Annual Show location at the Humble Civic Center on Thursday morning.
October Happenings
In addition to getting ready for the Annual Show, we have had two important sales in October.
On October 19th, Ray Kizer conducted an auction for a Donation Sale for Club members of some excellent material previously donated.
On October 26th, polished and rough specimens of Dinosaur Bone, Arizona Petrified Wood, other types of Petrified Wood, and Agate from the Gary Anderson Estate were offered at set prices. Gary passed away on May 28th – see In Memorium in the June Backbenders Gazette (https://hgms.org/backbenders-gazette-june-2024/ ).
Random number generation was used to establish an order for participation in the Gary Anderson Sale, starting with 5 pieces of Dino Bone, rather than auction to the highest bidder.
Both sales were well attended!
Volunteers Needed!
November is a big month! The holiday season kind of starts with Halloween on October 31st, and if you stay up late, there you are – it’s November! Before you know it, it will be time for Thanksgiving and the Club’s Christmas party, then Christmas and New Year’s! And then another round of hard work and sobriety kicks in…
But let’s not get ahead of ourselves! There is another big happening in November, right? The Annual Show! Yes, members of the Show Committee have been working and planning for a couple of months now. Nancy English, our Volunteer Co-ordinator, has been signing up volunteers and recording their preferred roles. Oh wait – have YOU volunteered yet? We need everyone’s help! Hospitality has been figuring out needs for water and other essentials like doughnuts and Education Committee has been signing up schools and scouts. We need people for Set Up and Tear Down too. We have a full slate of dealers for the Show including 4 new ones. And we have an awesome Grand Prize this year, courtesy of the Gary Anderson Estate. You can see it this beautiful round of Arizona Petrified Wood on the Annual Show Page.
Field Trip News
HGMS Member Clifford Johnston put together a trip to the Mt. Ida, Arkansas area to mine quartz crystals. He is leaving on November 3 or 4. It is a one-day drive, 2 days mining 2 different sites, and one day driving back. This is not an HGMS trip.
Please email Mike Dawkins at field_trips@hgms.org if you have an idea for a field trip.
Education
Class: CABS 101 Center Classroom/Lapidary Shop
Instructor: Sharon Halton
Cost: Member Cost $60.00; Non-Member Cost $85.00
Minimum of 3-students; Maximum of 5-students
Students must be at least 15 years old
TWO SESSIONS:
- Monday, November 25 from Noon to 4pm
- Monday, December 2 from 6pm to 10pm
This class includes a discussion of how to create cabochons and examples of cabs in various stages of development. Sharon Halton, Shop Manager, will provide each student with a pre-cut, preformed, and dopped cabochon to shape while their chosen slab is curing from the dopping process. Students will select a slab and learn how to use a template to outline the cab shape and use the trim saw to roughly shape the cabochon outline. Each student will leave with 2-cabochons and the knowledge to finish them, if they have not completed them in class. Students will learn the best way to use the equipment in the Lapidary Shop so that they can work semi-independently and confidently in the shop afterwards with oversight from Shop Managers. This class is highly recommended for those wishing to utilize the Lapidary Shop.
Registration will open on our website this week.
Watch that Doorstop!
by Don Shurtz, Pleasant Oaks Gem and Mineral Club of Dallas
Article Idea from The Cowtown Cutter newsletter, October 2024 edition
Over the years I have heard of many large chunks of rock being used as a doorstop. Doorstops used to be a lot more common than they are today. Many older houses used a big rock as a doorstop. I have heard of a large piece of Arizona Petrified wood being used as a doorstop. Similar stories have reported large pieces of other types of petrified wood, calcite, quartz, and even quartz with gold being used. A recent story surfaced from Romania of a woman who found a 7.7-pound rock in a nearby stream and used it as a doorstop for decades. After she passed, the stone was inherited by a family member who decided to check if the stone had any value. It turns out that the 7.7-pound “rock” was amber – one of the largest amber specimens ever found! It has been classified as the largest Rumanit black amber specimen ever found. The Rumanit black amber has some unique properties, including a black-to-red color, and is found in the Colti area of Romania. The relative who inherited the stone sold it to the Romanian state, but probably for a lot less than the estimated value of 1.1 million dollars.

Because of its organic origins, amber is not classified as a mineral or a rock. Amber is fossilized tree resin. It is noted for its golden color, but other colors of amber exist including blue, orange, yellow, red, brown, and black. Amber sometimes has insects and plant material encapsulated by the resin before it begins its fossilization process.
References:
- Amber, Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber
- The Cowtown Cutter, the newsletter of the Fort Worth Gem and Mineral Club, October 2024 edition
- Rock used as Doorstop, https://www.sciencealert.com/
- World Record Rumanit, https://www.worldrecordacademy.org/
Picture: from Buzău County Museum, used by Fair Use
Bench Tips
By Brad Smith
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DIVIDERS
A set of dividers is a tool I find very useful in laying out the geometry of a piece I’m making. It has two needle-like tips with an adjustment to set the spacing between them.
They can be used to transfer a measurement. Let’s say you need a 7mm wide strip of sheet metal. Set the spacing between the divider tips to 7 mm on the ruler. Then lay the sheet on the bench, put one tip against the edge, and run the dividers down the edge scribing a line parallel to the edge.
Dividers can be used to mark equal segments of a line or arc. For instance, assume a line between A and B that might be straight or curved, and you want to divide it into 5 equal lengths. Set the dividers to an estimate of the distance. Starting at Point A, use the dividers to mark off five lengths along the line. If you end up short of Point B, lengthen the distance on the dividers. If you end up overshooting Point B, shorten the length of your dividers. After a few tries, the length on the dividers will be the exact distance you need to mark the 5 segments.
Dividers can let you quickly find the center of a circular disk. With one tip of the dividers at the edge of the disk, set the other tip to an estimate of where the center might be. Fix one tip of the dividers at the 3 o’clock position and scribe an arc with the other tip near the center. Do this again from the 6 o’clock, 9 o’clock, and 12 o’clock positions. The arcs at the center will form a small four-sided box. The center of the box is at the center of the disk.

PIECE OF LEATHER
Leather has a multitude of uses in the shop. I often use a scrap of it to work on to avoid scratching the back of a piece of jewelry while setting stones. It’s also great for times when you need to clamp one of your tools in a vise, for instance a drawplate. Scraps of leather can be salvaged from purses or belts that are being thrown out.
The President’s Corner (SCFMS)
By Don Shurtz, President
South Central Federation of Mineral Societies
https://scfms.net/
FROM THE SEPTEMBER – OCTOBER 2024 SCFMS NEWSLETTER
Our New Executive Secretary
I have appointed Susan Burch as the Executive Secretary to fill the position vacated by the passing of Liz Burford. You will soon get to know Susan (in the unlikely event that you do not already know her) as one of her responsibilities is to receive the dues and insurance payments from each club. Susan is also serving as the Newsletter Editor, the Bulletin Editor Advisory Committee (BEAC) Chair, and a member of the Directory Committee. It will be necessary to approve the appointment at the upcoming Convention.
Our SCFMS Convention
By the time you receive this, our Convention will almost be here. The SCFMS Convention will be on November 23, 2024, in Mesquite, Texas. The Convention is being hosted by the Dallas Gem and Mineral Society. The DGMS is putting a lot of effort into making this Convention a success. It is up to the members of the SCMFS to make it a success.
To make the convention an absolute success, every member of the Board of Directors and the Executive Secretary needs to be in attendance. The Board of Directors are the President, Executive Vice President, eight District Vice Presidents, the Secretary, the Treasurer, and the current Presidents of each member society. The Presidents of each member society may designate (in writing) a representative to attend the convention.
The SCFMS Officers are elected for a two-year term. The officers were elected at the 2023 Convention, so there will not be a need to elect new officers at the upcoming Convention. However, any appointed officer positions must be approved. We must also pass a budget for 2025. We may not have many items on the agenda for the Convention, but the ones that will be there are important.
SCFMS Status Report
The SCFMS has 13 Elected and one Appointed (and non-voting) Officers. There are currently three vacant elected Officer positions. They are the Secretary, District II Vice President (Southeast TX), and District V Vice President (West Texas).
The SCFMS has 30 committees. There are currently 14 Committee Chair positions that are vacant:
- AFMS Endowment Fund Raffle Chair
- Auditing Chair
- Boundaries (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Commemorative Stamps (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Constitution and By-Laws Chair
- Education and All-American Award (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Golden Spark Plug Award Chair
- Juniors Program (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Long-Range Planning Chair
- Nominating Committee Chair
- Public Relations (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Rockhound of the Year (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Safety (AFMS Liaison) Chair
- Ways and Means Chair
This means 47% of the Committee Chair positions are vacant.
As for the Committee Member positions, the story is even worse. Most of these positions only require a few hours per year of effort. We really need to start filling the Committee positions.
I hate to suggest it, but we probably also need yet another Committee to look into the need for all the committees, new committees, or getting rid of some of the committees. Does anyone want to tackle that position?
Note:
If you read this article, you may have seen that District II Vice President (Southeast TX) is a vacant position! That’s us, people. Wouldn’t someone like to get involved in our Regional Federation? Help save our hobby!
HGMS Board of Directors Meeting
Meeting Minutes for October 1, 2024
| Board Member | Section Board Member | ||
| X | President – LT [Logan] Wilcox | X | Beading – Maggie Manley |
| X | 1st Vice President – Jeanean Slamen | X | Day Light – Fred Brueckner |
| X | 2nd Vice President – Sarah Metsa | X | Gemstones & Faceting – Randy Carlson |
| X | Treasurer – Sharon Halton |
X | Lapidary & Silversmithing – Richard Good |
| X | Secretary – Daniel Rodriguez | X | Mineral – Ray Kizer |
| X | Past President – Nancy English | X | Paleontology – Mike Dawkins |
| X | Web & Show – Scott Singleton [SS] |
Meeting: October 1, 2024
Call to order (upon achieving a quorum) at 7:35 pm there are Ten voting members in attendance. Non-voting members present: Nancy English
Motioned by Sharon Halton 2nd by Fred Brueckner
Approved: Yeas Ten Nays 0
● President’s Comments:
Open discussion
Approval of September meeting minutes—not voting via Zoom at the meeting—voting via email: The minutes will be sent to board members for
voting by email no later than October 25, 2024.
October 1, 2024, Board of Directors Meeting 1
Treasurer’s Report:
● The budget is set for the rest of the year 2024.
Membership Report:
● Verify membership list
Old Business:
● Sharon Halton proposed that we start a new member check-in system to make sure that they know how to use the equipment correctly in the Lapidary room.
Motion: Start a mandatory orientation class for new members to be checked in on all equipment procedures. Lead by shop supervisors if they are comfortable teaching the class. This will be conducted either in person or online via Zoom. The orientation class can also be taken by current members if they would like to learn more about the equipment. Using a card-type system to show that the member has completed the class.
Starting with the lapidary section. This will be added to the membership application. Effective November 1, 2024. No cost.
Motion set 1st by Sharon Halton and 2nd by Ray Kizer
Approved YES
Yea 9 No 1
New Business: N/A
Section and Committee Reports:
● Volunteer Committee: N/A
● Show Committee: N/A
● Program Committee: N/A
October 1, 2024, Board of Directors Meeting 2
Adjourn
Move to adjourn the Board of Directors Meeting: 1st by LT Wilcox & 2nd by
Sharon Halton. The meeting adjourned at 8:40 pm.
Approved: Yeas Ten Nays 0
HGMS General Meeting Minutes
Minutes for October 22, 2024.
President LT Wilcox called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. Thirteen attendees were present, and five were online.
President’s Comments
- We need more volunteers for the show.
- The saw in the Lapidary room is coming back together quickly and will be ready to be used.
- Bil Spizirri from the Fort Bend Astronomy Club (FBAC) will be doing the presentation this evening.
OLD BUSINESS
- N/A
NEW BUSINESS
- There will be a sale between 10 am – and 3 pm from Gary Anderson’s estate collection on Saturday 10/26/24 at the club.
SECTION NEWS
- N/A
COMMITTEE NEWS
- N/A
SHOW AND TELL
- Some samples of the rock/wood from Gary Anderson’s estate will be at the sale on Saturday 10/26/24.
- Bill Spizzirri is showing meteors & meteorites from his collection.
The business meeting adjourned at 7:47 pm. Motion approved: Yes 13 No 0
We took a 15-minute break for refreshments: everyone enjoyed the refreshments provided by Debbie Seid, our Social Chair.
Door Prize Winner:
1st winner:
2nd winner:
PRESENTATION:
Bill Spizirri from the Fort Bend Astronomy Club (FBAC) will discuss the difference between meteors, asteroids, and meteorites. He will describe the types of meteorites and their characteristics as well as various impact sites (craters). He’ll be bringing several different types of meteorites for show-and-tell and will also be able to tell us more about FBAC’s activities locally.
Bill is a retired mainframe software engineer from Chicago who has studied astronomy for 68 years. He has been a member of several astronomy clubs for 46 years and served in various offices including president of an astronomy club in Chicago. His favorite astronomy activity is teaching astronomy to children and the general public. He currently lives in Katy to be near his three grandchildren.
Upcoming Shows
Houston Gem & Mineral Society Annual Show!
11/08/2024 – 11/10/2024
Friday 9:00am – 6:00pm, Saturday 9:00am – 6:00pm, Sunday 10:00am – 5:00pm
Humble Civic Center, 8233 Will Clayton Pkwy, Humble, TX 77338
HGMS.org/Annual Show
https://www.facebook.com/HGMS.org/
https://www.instagram.com/HGMS.org_TX/
Dallas Gem & Mineral Society Annual Show and SCFMS Convention
11/23/2024 – 11/24/2024
Saturday 10:00am – 6:00. Sunday 10:00am – 5:00pm
Mesquite Convention Center, 1700 Rodeo Drive; Mesquite, Texas
www.facebook.com/dallasgemandmineralsociety
Contact Diana Case, (469) 688-4057, dgmscontracts@yahoo.com

